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Tegid ap Gwair (abt. 600 - aft. 670)

Prince Tegid (Tegid of Man) ap Gwair
Born about in North Walesmap [uncertain]
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Husband of — married [date unknown] in Montgomery, Montgomeryshire, Walesmap [uncertain]
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Died after after about age 70 in North Walesmap
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Biography

Reliable sources have not yet been found to confirm his existence.

Research Notes

Fabricated Line of Descent

Boyer shows Tegid in a line of descent going back to Coel Hen ("King Cole"). [1] Wolcott's different birth estimates are appended in parentheses. [2] Stewart Baldwin, however, states that the genealogy which purports to make Gwriad a direct male-line descendant of Llywarch Hen is almost certainly a late fabrication. [3]

  1. Coel Hen or Coel Godebog, lived about the year 370 (345)
  2. Ceneu ap Coel Hen was born say 400 (380)
  3. Gwrwst Ledlum ap Ceneu ap Coel Hen was born say 430 (415)
  4. Meirchion Gul ap Gwrwst Ledlum ap Ceneu ap Coel Hen was born say 470 (445).
  5. Elidir Lydenwyn ap Merchion Gul ap Gwrwst Ledlum ap Ceneu was born say 500 (485),
  6. Llywarch Hen ab Elidir Lydenwyn ap Meirchion Gul ap Gwrwst Ledlum was born say 530 (520)
  7. Dwg ap Llywarch Hen ap Elidir Lydewyn ap Meirchion Gul was born say 570 (560).
  8. Gwair ap Dwg ap Llywarch Hen ab Elidir Lydenwyn, born say 600
  9. Tegid ap Gwair ap Dwg ap Llywarch Hen was born say 630
  10. Alcwn ap Tegid ap Gwair ap Dwg, born say 670
  11. Sandde ab Alcwn ap Tegid ap Gwair, born say 700 married Celeinion ferch Tudwal ab Anarawd Gwalch-Crwn ap Merfyn Mawr, who was King of Man and reputedly a descendant of Macsen Wledig (Roman Emperor Maximus, who died 388.
  12. Elidir ap Sandde ab Alcwn ap Tegid, born say 730
  13. Gwriad ab Elidir ap Sandde ab Alcwn, born say 770.

Tegid ap Gwyar ap Llywarch Hen is a direct descendant of the last British king of South Rheged. Elidyr's son, Gwriad, becomes king of Gwynedd in 815, still carrying the title, 'Heir to South Rheged'. Physical control of the region, however, has long since fallen to Northumbria, although southern sections may be conquered by Mercia during its ascendancy around this time. [4]

Birth and Parents

Tegid ap Gwair, Prince of Deheubarth, King of Ynys Manaw (Isle of Man), [5][6][7][8][9]was born in 600 in North Wales.[5][6][8]

Gwair (Cade) ap Dwywg, Prince of Rheged (b. 565) and Anna Mawgawse, Princess of Britain (b. 565). Issue:

  1. Tegid ap Gwair, (b. 599) + Anna of Britain (b. 620)
    1. Alewn (Alcun) ap Tegid (b. 649)[10]

Death

He also died in Wales . [5]

Sources

  1. Carl Boyer, 3rd. Medieval Welsh Ancestors of Certain Americans. Generally follows Bartrum. By the author: Santa Clarita, California, 2004. Coel Hen is #1 on page 63.
  2. Darrell Wolcott. Ancient Wales Studies. Pedigree of the Ancient Lords of Ial Accessed 4 November 2023 jhd
  3. Stewart Baldwin Llywelyn ap Iorwerth ancestor table Accessed 5 August 2022 jhd
  4. [http://bit.ly/1l6XXoB Gaelic Kingdoms, Outer Islands]
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 Ancestry.com. Record for Alcwn ApTegid. Tegid, Prince of Deheubarth ApGwair.
  6. 6.0 6.1 Ancestry. Birth date: 0600.
  7. Ancestry
  8. 8.0 8.1 Ancestry.
  9. Ancestry Family Trees Ancestry.
  10. Life of Saint Raymond, By Brian Daniel Starr, p. 82.

See also:

S1. David Hughes, The British Chronicles, Volume 2. Edition illustrated. Publisher Heritage Books, 2007

S2. Gaelic Kingdoms Outer Islands, Ynys Manau or Isle of Man

S4. Map ca450-600.

S5. Kings of Isle of Man.

Note: OLD KING COLE DESCENDANTS

S7. Old King Cole Descendants.

S364. Source: #S-2127383364 Ancestry Family Trees.

S409. Source: #S-1024580409 Ancestry Family Trees

S459. Source S-2024265459Lineage of the Royal Princes of England. Ken Stelmaszek.

Acknowledgments

  • Thank you to Katherine Wall for creating Gwair-17 on 10 Sep 13.
  • This person was created through the import of Holman Family Tree.ged on 06 March 2011.
  • This person was created through the import of Farmer Meanderings.ged on 31 January 2011.
  • This person was created on 21 March 2011 through the import of LJ Pellman Consolidated Family_2011-03-21.ged.
  • This person was created through the import of master 11_12.ged on 21 October 2010.
  • WikiTree profile Gwair-7 created through the import of WILLIAMS 2011.GED on Jun 22, 2011 by Ted Williams.
  • WikiTree profile Gwair-8 created through the import of WILLIAMS 2011.GED on Jun 22, 2011 by Ted Williams.
  • WikiTree profile Gwair-9 created through the import of SRW 7th July 2011.ged on Jul 7, 2011 by Stephen Wilkinson.
  • WikiTree profile Gwair-13 created through the import of davidson ftm file 2011-07-26.ged on Jul 26, 2011 by Jeffrey Davidson.
  • WikiTree profile Gwair-15 created through the import of davidson ftm file 2011-07-26.ged on Jul 26, 2011 by Jeffrey Davidson.




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Deheubarth-26 and Gwair-5 appear to represent the same person because: Merging a near empty profile into the main profile of same person.
posted on Gwair-5 (merged) by John Cherry
Ap Caid-1 and Gwair-5 appear to represent the same person because: http://bit.ly/1nQSOkz
posted on Gwair-5 (merged) by Michelle (Bairfield) Brooks
UNKNOWN-18422 and Gwair-3 are not ready to be merged because: missing info
posted on Gwair-5 (merged) by Jeff Davidson
UNKNOWN-18422 and Gwair-3 appear to represent the same person because: dates are off - par for the course for this era.

790— Elidyr map Sandde map Alcwn map Tegid map Gwyar map Llywarch Hen is a direct descendant of the last British king of South Rheged. Elidyr's son, Gwriad, becomes king of Gwynedd in 815, still carrying the title, 'Heir to South Rheged'. Physical control of the region, however, has long since fallen to Northumbria, although southern sections may be conquered by Mercia during its ascendancy around this time.

Source: http://bit.ly/1l6XXoB

posted on Gwair-5 (merged) by Michelle (Bairfield) Brooks
This profile is clearly for someone more than 200 years old, so the Privacy should be Open. Please change it. Thanks.
posted on Gwair-5 (merged) by Vic Watt

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